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Las Vegas

16 Friday Dec 2011

Posted by Seeking Peace in Elvis, Las Vegas, Love Wins, Rob Bell, temptation

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All in all, I had a good ten days there.  There is so much to create temptation after temptation and short of staying up too late and donating my $100 to the craps table (when I was up $50 and knew I should walk away), I survived it relatively unscathed. 

I had seen a t-shirt before I left town playing on Vegas’ tag line that said, “what happens in Vegas is revealed in heaven.”  So true. 

I listened to Rob Bell’s Love Wins book on the way home and kept wondering what God will say to all the folks that make Las Vegas what it is when they meet him.  No answers, just questions.  (And possibly more on Bell’s book later.)

It was a good run for our company in Las Vegas but I’m glad to be out of there, glad I didn’t do anything I would be regretting today and glad I don’t have to be surrounded by that all the time. 

Grace and peace to you.

The Week That Was

22 Monday Aug 2011

Posted by Seeking Peace in cheat, fishing, Justin, Miami, Rob Bell

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A friend asked me how I was doing last week and I had a seemingly bizarre response, even for me.  “Well, I’m physically and emotionally exhausted, I’m battling attacks almost daily that are trying to separate me from a focus on God, I’m separated from the people I love the most by a situation I hate, and it could get worse before it gets better.  So, I praise God in this storm because it reminds me that I can do nothing without him and it’s easy for me to look around and see others who are living in situations that seem so much worse than my own.” 

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That was before I hopped on a corporate plane owned by one of our vendors, flew to the coast to fish and flew back the next day after lots of fish and a great meal.  It’s not all bad. 

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The University of Miami got busted for some bad stuff and rumors of the death penalty but I don’t believe it will happen.  Too much TV money is on the line and we all know that college sports are more and more about the money these days.  Sad that SMU had to get hammered for the NCAA to figure out they didn’t have the guts to keep busting the bad guys. 

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Walmart + Friday night = very bizarre clothing standards

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If you know me well, you know I can be a bit sarcastic and often at the most inopportune times.  You might also know that Rob Bell wrote a book that many describe as his reasoning that there is not a literal hell.  So, I couldn’t help but tweet last week the following; “I wonder if this summer is God’s response to Rob Bell.”  You have to appreciate sordid humor to enjoy some of the things I say.

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I read a blog post by one of Bell’s biggest apologists last week attempting to explain why the Bible never truly condones homosexual activity unless it is used in some pagan, ritualistic way.  My views on scripture have broadened and relaxed in many ways from how I was taught early in life but I just can’t get there with this guy. 

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I’m finding that many people really don’t believe you can follow the Bible unless you understand Greek because they use how original words were used to explain why things don’t mean what we used to believe they meant.  Maybe scripture really is for the mental elite.  But, I don’t believe it.

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So, there are things that I don’t agree with but I take those comments and use them to re-examine what I believe, to study again what I read in scripture and what I believe the God I know with my heart wants me to know about him and his desire.  If that’s not enough…

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I think it’s enough.

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Grace and peace to you.
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Helen Waite

23 Wednesday Mar 2011

Posted by Seeking Peace in heaven, hell, love, Rob Bell

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I always get a kick out of the sign I see in some businesses that say something like “our credit manager, Helen Waite, handles all requests for credit.  If you want credit, please go straight to Helen Waite.”

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I’ve spent some time reading more and more of the fallout surrounding Rob Bell’s new book, “Love Wins” and the question of what Bell thinks about hell.  I’ve found a blog from a pastor who lost his job because he no longer believes in a literal hell full of fire and eternal torment.  I’ve found a blog written by someone who thinks he’s on the fringe of religion and think the discussion of hell is a complete non-issue.  I’ve found a blog that defends Bell and I’ve found a blog that shares how people have labeled Bell a universalist and heretic.

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Sadly, I don’t know enough about the titles people are given (I’m still trying to ascertain exactly what liberal and progressive means in the churches of Christ) so I can’t speak to what Bell is or isn’t and, I would guess, that applies to the people who have taken to name-calling.  However, it has made me stop for at least a brief moment and think about what I believe about the concept of hell and has made me realize it’s another one of the many things I need to go deeper in studying.  It has also reinforced the idea of God’s love and the importance of living in the knowledge of that, more important than anything I can be doing right now. 

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It has also opened the door on thinking how I feel about the wars we are engaging in and the justification our country has made for getting involved.  If love conquers all, why are we dropping bombs.  If heaven is the place we really want to go, why are we killing people we fear?  In Ephesians, we are given the tools we need for battle and I can’t remember where we get the bullets, grenades and bombs in the deal.  Does it mean I’m a pacifist?  It very well could.  I’m already past agreeing with the death penalty in any form or fashion.  Does it make me weak?  Maybe in some eyes but it is where I’ll have to live on faith.

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I look forward to reading Bell’s book and to dig deeper into heaven, hell, who God is and who he wants me to be. 

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Grace and peace to you.
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Kids and Hell

22 Tuesday Mar 2011

Posted by Seeking Peace in heaven, hell, love, Rob Bell

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A compelling title?  Two different subjects today.

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A mother of two teenage daughters gave me a napkin that cracked me up.  It says, “I’ll have a caffe mocha vodka valium latte to go, please.”  Cracked me up.

Rob Bell has come out with a new book titled “Love Wins” and it seems he touches on the topic of hell and whether it is a literal place and the book seems to have started a firestorm of it’s own.  I’ve heard from friends things being said online and read some stuff on Facebook and can’t help but wonder what difference it all makes.

I’ve heard people in the past rationalize their faith by saying something to this affect, “I rather follow God and find out there is no God than not follow God and find out hell is real.”  I guess my thoughts today revolve around the knowledge that God is love (says so in the good book!) and I have become compelled to follow God and love him back because he LOVES me and gave his son for me.  I can’t imagine loving my children simply because they are afraid of me and I can’t imagine God loving me if I was “loving” him just so I wouldn’t have to go to hell.  I understand the consequences of bad actions because I got my fair share of spankings when I was a kid but I love my parents because they loved me, not because they had me cowering in fear.

All that to say, it’s sad to me when Satan wins a skirmish by getting Christ-followers up in arms about a book someone wrote debating something that isn’t completely spelled out in God’s word, at least not to my level of understanding.  On the other hand, I do believe heaven is real, it’s the place where God exists and heaven is the place he has prepared for me and that’s where I want my focus (but it doesn’t mean I know what heaven is all about either).

I hope the arguments soon cease, that God is praised and glorified and that people who don’t know God will know that he loves them so much, he sent his only son to die that whoever believes in him will be saved.

Grace and peace to you.

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